tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33109228655766004732024-03-16T11:52:31.284-07:00The British Tahu Ratum ExpeditionThis summer Hamish Dunn, Luke Hunt and Tom Ripley will attempt the unclimbed NW Ridge of Tahu Ratum (6651m) in alpine style. This blog will be regularly updated throughout the build-up and during the expedition.Tom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-77336641528065934112011-02-11T06:15:00.001-08:002011-02-11T06:24:17.307-08:00Final Post: Over and OutAppologies to any one who has checked, because this is long overdue. Hamish, Holly, Luke and I are safe and sound back in the UK. We had a brilliant time in Pakistan, but unfortunately were foiled by bad weather and we unable to climb Tahu Ratum.<br /><br />I've written up an expedition report, which goes over our trip in detail. It can be found <a href="http://www.nickestcourtaward.org/HTML/PreviousWinners.htm">here.</a><br /><br />Hamish has put in a lot of time and effort into producing this excellent video, which offers a good flavor of our trip:<br /><br /><iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/19172849" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/19172849">Tahu Ratum - A Clouded Dream</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user3386528">hamish dunn</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p><br /><br />A final huge thank you to any one and everyone who supported this summer, particularly the orgainisations that gave us grants, without your support we would have been unable to go to Pakistan last summer.<br /><br />Tom RipleyTom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-86917435482661130632010-08-30T22:05:00.000-07:002010-08-30T22:12:48.899-07:00Sweaty IslamabadA very hot and humid morning here in Islamabad.<br />We've spent a few days in the capital tying up loose ends. We've had a fair amount of admin to do such as paying our agent, collecting our helicopter rescue deposit and changing our plane tickets. On Sunday Luke and Hamish went climbing at a local crag with John Arran and we all spent a lovely evening out with Nazir Sabir. Monday involved another 3 hours arguing at the PIA offices to get the 240GBP of flight change charges waived. We went from manager to manager and eventually got the district manager to waive the charges- the branch manager was furious!<br /><br />We're flying out of Islamabad in 4 hours and will be back in the UK this evening.<br /><br />Watch this space for photos!<br /><br />by HamishTom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com43tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-25001534040679022952010-08-21T10:18:00.000-07:002010-08-21T10:23:07.227-07:00Chicken Tonight......Hey everyone just got this text message off the team:<br /><br />"Left base camp this morning.<br /><br />Fresh Chicken on the Menu tonight!<br /><br />All attempts on the mountain thwarted by bad weather.<br /><br />Looking forward to getting back to civilisation.<br /><br />Love the team x"<br /><br />Unfortunately the weather that has been causing the floods in Pakistan has also prevented the boys from climbing Tahu Ratum which is a real shame.<br /><br />I can't wait to see them all, and wish them a safe journey home.<br /><br />DuncanTom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-40295150347375381812010-08-11T14:14:00.000-07:002010-08-11T14:24:02.084-07:00SaunaWhooaaa you guys are being spoiled now...another text from the team.....<br /><br />"Sun came out briefly this pm, so we used the petrol stove to heat rocks and put a tarp over the top to make a sauna! Love the team x"<br /><br />I feel the deepest pity for Holly for having to put up with the guy's pasty bodies.....<br /><br />Hopefully next time I post something they will have acclimatised, and be ready for an attempt, or at least done some bouldering!!<br /><br />DuncanTom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-80089231299830809242010-08-10T11:23:00.000-07:002010-08-10T11:27:59.209-07:00Patience is a virtue.....Just got this off the team......<br /><br />"It has been raining for 5 days solid.<br /><br />Out of honey and have played every card game we know.<br /><br />Please send us suggestions for anything to stave off boredom to our sat-phone.<br /><br />Hamish, Holly, Luke and Tom."<br /><br />So you heard the boss.....send suggestions to: +8821651075983.<br /><br />Lets hope the weather clears up!<br /><br />DuncanTom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-4068283673128648432010-08-03T14:41:00.000-07:002010-08-03T14:46:25.844-07:00Arrived at Base CampJust got a text update from the team:<br /><br />"Arrived at base camp today after 6 day trek.<br /><br />We had to play hardball with the porters and won after they tried to raise the price yet again.<br /><br />Tahu Ratum looks stunning and the home-brew beer is brewing."<br /><br />Nice looks like the floods havent hindered them and they have their priorities sorted!<br /><br />Will let you know anymore as soon as I know.<br /><br />DuncanTom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-13432132518393908892010-07-27T09:05:00.000-07:002010-07-27T14:20:20.354-07:00Expedition does not equal holiday...This is our fourth day in Pakistan but it seems like we've been away much longer!<br /><br />Saturday<br /><br />After an entertaining overnight flight with PIA (and the best in-flight meal I have ever tasted - curry and chapatti) we arrived in Islamabad at 6am. Even at this time in the morning the temperature was in the high thirties and very humid. The airport is a little outside of Islamabad and it was a thirty minute ride to where we were staying. This was our first experience of Pakistani driving and it was certainly eye opening. To an outsider there seems to be little logic between the movements of cars, horses, cyclists and ornately decorated trucks. According to our driver there are few accidents, so this strange kind of dance must really work!<br /><br /><p>We arrived at Jamsine lodge, our thankfully air-conditioned guest house. After a few hours of much needed kip we met our guide and spent the afternoon driving round the city visiting officials from the Alpine Club of Pakistan and the helicopter rescue company (hopefully we won't meet again!). We spent the evening in browsing the vibrant markets of downtown Islamabad - In a vain effort to turn his life around, Tom picked up a few books including: Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. Watch this space! - Before meeting up with John Arran, a climber from Sheffield, working out here. Alcohol is available in Pakistan, so we had to go to a very discreet downstairs bar in the Marriot hotel to aquire our illicit beverages. It was great to meet up and share stories (and thanks for dinner!). He has recently put up the hardest sport route in Pakistan, and plans to keep breaking the record every weekend!<br /></p><br /><strong>Sunday<br /><br /></strong><p>After an (almost) alpine start we arrived at the airport for the early flight to Gilgit. It was all looking good until it was cancelled 10 minutes before departure. The locals protested but after two hours we all gave up, and with some trepidation elected to take the notoreous Karakoram Highway. We also gained an extra passenger - sharing the bumpy ride with lecturer from Texas University - studying the traditional languages of the Hunza Valley.</p><p><img style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 150px; DISPLAY: block; HEIGHT: 200px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5498623988790231442" border="0" alt="" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVhPtfzJpDM5Nm3bVbmwX4AInQH1_SkN8gki3q2TMabV_QLnwuA2cgesh_lijgybwzzXYhJ4V7nBvFL8WVOPCf8o8XQwcEWuQ2X14-JbNXXpiohXaHS0pXbneZOzB6_AosuiNOHK0WJCln/s200/KKH+van.JPG" /></p><p align="center"><em><span style="font-size:85%;">A typical view on the death defying KKH - Photo: Luke Hunt.</span></em></p><p>Driving up into the mountains we passed through some eye opening scenes in the Pakistani countryside. The area is so full of life! We set off late and had to drive some of the most dangerous roads (in terms of bandits and big drops) at night. We passed through some interesting areas and at one point shared our vehicle with a Policeman, compete with AK47! All very exciting! We arrived in our guesthouse in Chileas after 22 hours on the go. Thanks to our tireless driver, who kept us bouncing and bumping along the crumbly and sometimes missing road and more importantly from plummiting into the abyss!</p><p><br /></p><br />Monday<br /><br />With the most dangerous roads behind us and our new found immunity to crumbly edges and steep drops we made our merry way up the Hunza valley. We are now staying in the Hilltop Hotel in Karimmabad - I make no exaggeration when I say this valley is the one of most beautiful I have ever been to, with soaring mountains, colourful, friendly people and lush vegetation.<br /><br />Today we have been shopping for all the food we will need for the expedition. Having developed a taste for chapatti and curry, (and underestimated costs somewhat!) we are planning to live on a very traditional diet during the expediton.<br /><br />The trip so far has been a richly intense experience, with a new challenge around every corner. At time of writing Hamish has just infomed us that a small landsilde has blocked the road up to Hispar Village and is about to cause us no end of trouble...<br /><br />This will be our last detailed post until we return to civilisation. However, we are intending send updates via sat phone texts so stay tuned!<br /><br />By Luke and Tom.Tom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-59342248251282192522010-07-24T10:47:00.000-07:002010-07-24T11:04:42.044-07:00They've Arrived!!!!Just a quick blog to let you guys know what the craic is with the team and so I can work out how to use this thing!!<br /><br />.......<br /><br />As you may have guessed they have arrived in Islamabad, Pakistan!<br /><br /><br />I spoke to Tom late yesterday afternoon as they neared Manchester Airport, and they all seemed pretty excited, nervous and psyched!<br /><br /><br />Today I got a text saying that they had arrived safely in Islamabad, had a short nap and were off to meet with some Pakistani Officials and that it all seems very organised!<br /><br /><br />I'm sure they will find an internet cafe soon and give a proper update...Tom can't just go cold turkey from his facebook addiction!<br /><br /><br />DuncanTom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-77149878327066790282010-07-22T16:42:00.000-07:002010-07-22T17:09:06.819-07:00Today has been mainly about packing...<div style="text-align: center;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0i8vrUM9Y7PIeIV3W0JuHolvltVjqe7MdqyExfiVtlX1G0s3iEeUCjwgbzsWlUxBGvK3kuTTY4OHO7Km35i6adThbYU2_kN8TJ8sqVs5zV76iCsoxrTPy9y3gx-a_ES4JatgH9idZsqO8/s1600/P1000021.JPG"><img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 200px; height: 150px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0i8vrUM9Y7PIeIV3W0JuHolvltVjqe7MdqyExfiVtlX1G0s3iEeUCjwgbzsWlUxBGvK3kuTTY4OHO7Km35i6adThbYU2_kN8TJ8sqVs5zV76iCsoxrTPy9y3gx-a_ES4JatgH9idZsqO8/s200/P1000021.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5496885970155790082" border="0" /></a><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-style: italic;">How many freeze dried meals... serious concentration required! Photo: Ian Carter.</span></span><br /></div><br />Holly, Hamish, Luke and I have spent the day in my barn. We occupied our time by packing, packing and yet more packing...<br /><br />We're all fairly knackered and are about to go sleep.<br /><br />Here are a few photos of us packing.<br /><br />A big thanks to everyone to who has supported our trip - we really, really, really appreciate it.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgiHJN5pA5hOYFiyxBOQvrnyAuN6pP2wAJkEbdfflhKh9gK7z0fJMvfu_H4egUyD7iob01FLFBbJZyiVcQ-9kxSwIEhTTvbW04f9HpmpyDa0GYq4mYsWdrMP1LXtxVfIXgpzdasJjO23f-w/s1600/P1000009.jpg"><img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 150px; height: 200px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgiHJN5pA5hOYFiyxBOQvrnyAuN6pP2wAJkEbdfflhKh9gK7z0fJMvfu_H4egUyD7iob01FLFBbJZyiVcQ-9kxSwIEhTTvbW04f9HpmpyDa0GYq4mYsWdrMP1LXtxVfIXgpzdasJjO23f-w/s200/P1000009.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5496882413508123730" border="0" /></a><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-style: italic;">Hamish on the phone to his Mum - He's forgotten the spare picks for his ice axes but his missing merino boxers were by far the most pressing issue. Photo: Ripley.</span></span><br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEKc2Rs1VLJhvM5e9-vjSJcbZbKvnUL-oNsf63_5YRA1kiLD2dqQ90bkb4TVvBS6hF5OOzu75jz6a43mfSizMKBSfmlDVY4KiO_yn59vEWirp_mrw-B-16WZaHWVVOBipHk-afbaBnEvBa/s1600/P1000013.JPG"><img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 200px; height: 150px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEKc2Rs1VLJhvM5e9-vjSJcbZbKvnUL-oNsf63_5YRA1kiLD2dqQ90bkb4TVvBS6hF5OOzu75jz6a43mfSizMKBSfmlDVY4KiO_yn59vEWirp_mrw-B-16WZaHWVVOBipHk-afbaBnEvBa/s200/P1000013.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5496883801837457762" border="0" /></a><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-style: italic;">Hamish and Holly pretty happy with yummy Mule Bars! Photo: Hunt.</span></span><br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXEZBfK4xaVPXDjbg2xNpBHRC0zMNAGut61JNNIeWNwO7xBvbKyKuHr4fizMCj3qyyH4mEUAh3Kw5MQqF2xtjL58c6gdiHemTh4_E101YVR0gk9isvRwml2PIZpZAxNGe8pRA5YdGeDECF/s1600/P1000017.jpg"><img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 150px; height: 200px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXEZBfK4xaVPXDjbg2xNpBHRC0zMNAGut61JNNIeWNwO7xBvbKyKuHr4fizMCj3qyyH4mEUAh3Kw5MQqF2xtjL58c6gdiHemTh4_E101YVR0gk9isvRwml2PIZpZAxNGe8pRA5YdGeDECF/s200/P1000017.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5496884503289169570" border="0" /></a><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-style: italic;">Geobar Heaven - Photo: Ripley.</span></span><br /></div><br />This will be our last blog post before the fun really starts, but I might squeeze another in tomorrow if you're lucky/some thing unexpected happens!<br /><br />Tom RipleyTom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-50984607024467560142010-07-21T08:47:00.000-07:002010-07-21T12:52:48.203-07:00Safe hands...Okay so it looks like we've pulled it off and it is all coming together! We're just about sorted and in 49 hours time we'll be boarding our plane in Manchester... It seems like its already been a long journey and the proper fun hasn't even started.<br /><br />We're going to update the blog sporadically during our trip. Either by using internet cafes or by texting Duncan Campbell from our satellite phone.<br /><br />Here's a picture of the cider drinking, whipper taking, generally nice chap - so you can trust our blog is in safe hands...<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiRt6pzGHmDxlw5B44RobytzQHLM1Rg32XIcPzit5isPEb2Z9r-7ElBRbfPBp68v2CBR5XRgQRu_xODBV8Gn5I1nVzfUszr-PlPM-Tx5pmeu6TsZYiW0nDGOk_wR8VmNOX6zpmdS-EHdhU9/s1600/dc"><img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 134px; height: 200px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiRt6pzGHmDxlw5B44RobytzQHLM1Rg32XIcPzit5isPEb2Z9r-7ElBRbfPBp68v2CBR5XRgQRu_xODBV8Gn5I1nVzfUszr-PlPM-Tx5pmeu6TsZYiW0nDGOk_wR8VmNOX6zpmdS-EHdhU9/s200/dc" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5496402978278322274" border="0" /></a><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-style: italic;">Photo: Tom Ripley.</span></span><br /><br /><div style="text-align: left;">By Tom Ripley<br /></div></div>Tom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-50510246203323837922010-07-17T09:33:00.000-07:002010-07-17T09:51:38.521-07:00One week to go and a new sponsor!<div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div>We fly out from Manchester Airport in less than a week!!!<div>Everything is coming together now and Tilley have kindly offered us each a hat for keeping the sun off during our 7 day approach to base camp. Tilley make the best, most stylish hats around and you can find them at <a href="http://www.tilleyuk.com/">http://www.tilleyuk.com</a></div><div><br /></div><div><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEivx5NWrt31COLhTAswYlCswdiTLXD00mQX81mMfIIx7HVUZ7iMPtfXwmPmO6BzEP1IRb8IJGi9OZKcVU7K3EYcClnk2oxgbCGc3BTQe3tSsDqDq0eq1MSmPz8Qga_sW8cbLOE8u4IbIJ0j/s200/TilleyHatLogo_Blue_on_White.jpg" style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 200px; height: 174px;" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5494915784991160530" /></div><div>Luke and Tom are currently at Tom's home in the Lake District playing with the satellite phone and selling cups of tea on Helvellyn. Holly and I still have a few days left at work, I've ordered half the 700 000 rupees we'll need and we've all started taking anti-malarials. The biggest challenge now will be keeping within the 40kg per person weight limit on the flight out. </div><div><br /></div><div>Look out for more regular updates over the coming week.</div><div><br /></div><div>by Hamish</div>Tom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-63967522591136057882010-06-26T11:00:00.000-07:002010-06-26T11:23:39.494-07:00One month to go...In less than a months time Holly, Hamish, Luke and I will be in Pakistan, but our list of jobs to do and problems to solve appears to be never ending and ever growing. I’ve spent today on the train to Manchester airport, after discovering last week, whilst filling out visa application forms that our flights had somehow been booked on the wrong date. Not just a day out, but nearly three weeks later then we’d panned. A million phone calls, from both Hamish and myself, to PIA’s infuriating helpdesk, later and we concluded that the only way to change our booking was to go to the airport in person, complete with all four passports and the credit card that the tickets had been bought on - which was unfortunately mine. Hopefully nothing else untoward will happen between now and the 22nd, but I bet it will!<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgC54yzfO-mX3Wg4ruNj_91M5SZA43Khwdd5FBkAOOtmlTyQ1tr_DKAJ5nT_V8Iof70orpmdjJ0TRoNzY9RdRPogTMvi5hSk-zBmZOqMVXqBfNPv1ug43btPzzI-3yps57AQJDs6qmK7gJB/s1600/P1000754.JPG"><img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 267px; height: 400px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgC54yzfO-mX3Wg4ruNj_91M5SZA43Khwdd5FBkAOOtmlTyQ1tr_DKAJ5nT_V8Iof70orpmdjJ0TRoNzY9RdRPogTMvi5hSk-zBmZOqMVXqBfNPv1ug43btPzzI-3yps57AQJDs6qmK7gJB/s400/P1000754.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5487149131206507378" border="0" /></a><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-style: italic;">Luke Hunt leadibng the top pitch of Scavenger on the Main Cliff, Gogarth - why he is wearing sandals and carrying a rucksack I'm not quite sure. Photo: Tom Ripley.</span><br /></span></div><br />Tom RipleyTom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-3821069838193362422010-06-08T04:23:00.000-07:002010-06-08T06:21:51.746-07:00The Fourth Woman<meta equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12"><meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 12"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>Normal</w:View> <w:zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:trackmoves/> <w:trackformatting/> <w:punctuationkerning/> <w:validateagainstschemas/> <w:saveifxmlinvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:ignoremixedcontent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:donotpromoteqf/> <w:lidthemeother>EN-GB</w:LidThemeOther> <w:lidthemeasian>KO</w:LidThemeAsian> 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style="font-size: medium;">Seven weeks is a long time to spend in the company of only two other people, no matter how good friends they are. The idea of spending over a month on a remote glacier in North Pakistan with no other company did seem a tad too committing for my liking. I’d also noticed that Tom Briggs, Graham Desroy and Mandi Shipton had accompanied </span></span><a href="http://nickbullock.blogware.com/"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Nick Bullock</span></span></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> and </span></span><a href="http://www.mountain-equipment.co.uk/about_us/pro_partners/andy_houseman/"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Andy Houseman</span></span></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> to base camp before their ascent of </span></span><a href="http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=50326"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Chang Himal</span></span></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"> last year. It seems I wasn’t the only who liked the idea of extra company.</span></span></span><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:arial;"><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">
<br /></span></span></span><span><!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--></span></p><div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:arial;"><span><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhftbYQcQzd-f_KwgbPCap5dwmvc2jxt8iYQFXQufskfP6QQoVNEUK9VUojSAUbAcpN8o-xeHWWrQfMb6dD4hqZ5sHRpdfOvYGCOg4XRaG3Le11_y5XEUU-hDEihPayjIqn2IC7CXcElgTI/s1600/holly.jpg"><img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 400px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhftbYQcQzd-f_KwgbPCap5dwmvc2jxt8iYQFXQufskfP6QQoVNEUK9VUojSAUbAcpN8o-xeHWWrQfMb6dD4hqZ5sHRpdfOvYGCOg4XRaG3Le11_y5XEUU-hDEihPayjIqn2IC7CXcElgTI/s400/holly.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5480362281534596578" border="0" /></a></span><span><span style="font-style: italic;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Holly - Looking happy!</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">
<br /></span></span></span></div><div face="arial" style="text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><span style="font-style: italic;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">
<br /></span></span></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:arial;"><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">After discussing the idea with Luke and Hamish – who were not opposed to the idea, but did not seem overly convinced either – I set about trying to find some more folk to come along. I generally got one of three answers: “I’d love to, but I can’t afford it.” “Na, I’ve got better things to do with my time than wait around in Pakistan, whilst you go climbing.” or the rather worrying, “Yea, I’d be well keen to try and climb that with you.”</span></span></span><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">
<br /></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:arial;"><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">After several weeks, I felt like I’d asked pretty much everyone I knew, the situation was looking pretty hopeless. No one was interested in coming on holiday with me. I’m student at Bangor University – though I’m not very good at studying – and an active member of Bangor University Mountaineering Society, or B.U.M.S for short. B.U.M.S is a drinking club and some of its’ members have a loose interest in climbing. During the winter it rains incessantly in North Wales so there is little opportunity for anything other than drinking and getting rowdy, which is far more exciting than climbing anyway. It was another wet Friday night and there was a load of us had headed down to Tremadog for a bit of knees up. There was a slim chance that some dry rock might be found too. </span></span></span><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:arial;"><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Eventually I got chatting to a girl with messy brown hair, who I sort of knew, but couldn’t for the life of me remember her name. “Do you want to come to Pakistan with me this summer?” I blurted out hopefully. Expecting a polite, “No” and look that said, “With you, I’d rather die.” Instead I got a rather excited, maybe over excited, “Wow! I’ve always wanted to go to Pakistan. Can I come please?” Rather taken aback I quickly said yes and out team was complete. It turns out, she’s called Holly.</span></span></span><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color:black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">By Tom Ripley</span></span></span><span style=";font-family:";color:#000000;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> Tom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-37762870695900030692010-06-06T06:10:00.000-07:002010-06-06T06:36:24.184-07:00Fourastier, Ailefroide North Face<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOzITXDDbHliHUjD9dcP5me4b_GNVdabIQiOppWoqC4EwifRrFq58Hbg70mP4vMaqcEZobKK72t7tFfPWEyD7dkoXELoDUnGiaNxQHqB5S8BfTfazu7qjBy_5kGQ1B6vXyl1jzA6Pkn9-8/s1600/IMG_1714.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 262px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOzITXDDbHliHUjD9dcP5me4b_GNVdabIQiOppWoqC4EwifRrFq58Hbg70mP4vMaqcEZobKK72t7tFfPWEyD7dkoXELoDUnGiaNxQHqB5S8BfTfazu7qjBy_5kGQ1B6vXyl1jzA6Pkn9-8/s400/IMG_1714.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5479647438688232770" /></a><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style=" color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 20px; font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:medium;">After weeks of working too hard and only a week to go before I return to the UK I managed to squeeze in one last route between exams. Left Lyon Thursday afternoon and after grabbing 3 hours sleep we set off from the Pre de Madame Carle at 1.30am on Friday. Due to cloud cover the snow didn't refreeze very well and the first part of the 4 hour approach was a bit of a struggle!</span></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 20px; font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style=" ;font-size:medium;">The route itself was quite thin and the face is more of a North East face than a North face so it catches the sun all morning turning it into an oven.<br />After reaching the top at 3.30pm we set about the very loonnnggg descent back to the valley. The descent took a further 7 hours of wading, bumsliding, glissading and abseiling and we arrived back in the valley 21 hours after leaving the car.</span></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 20px; font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style=" ;font-size:medium;"><br />The hard routes on the faces around the Glacier Noir are pretty serious in comparison to many of the faces in Chamonix. The rock is poor and there is no fixed gear (abseil retreat would be a serious undertaking) so you are obliged to finish the route. Once on top there is no easy descent as even the Ailefroide normal route is difficult to find when the rock buttresses are covered in snow and the cairns invisible.<br />The route itself gets the complicated grade of TD IV 4+ 5b M4+ and apart from the slog up the snowfield left of the hanging glacier is quite sustained.</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 20px; font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style=" ;font-size:medium;"><br /></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:#333333;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style=" ;font-size:medium;">If you're interested a topo and photos of the route can be found here:</span></span></span><a href="http://www.camptocamp.org/routes/56609/fr/ailefroide-pointe-fourastier-face-n"><span class="Apple-style-span" style=" ;font-size:medium;">http://www.camptocamp.org/routes/56609/fr/ailefroide-pointe-fourastier-face-n</span></a></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 20px; font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style=" ;font-size:medium;"><br />All in all a mega long day and a good route but not the most enjoyable outing! This will be the last alpine route I get on before Pakistan so I'll need to get plenty of running and climbing done to stay fit for Pakistan.</span></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:#333333;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style=" ;font-size:medium;"><br /></span></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 20px; font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style=" ;font-size:medium;">by Hamish Dunn</span></span></div></div></div>Tom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-37680440724975589592010-06-05T13:40:00.000-07:002010-06-06T02:48:43.753-07:00The Journey to Tahu Ratum<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:x-large;"></span></b></span><div><span><span>It is said that the crux of any mountaineering expedition is actually getting to the mountain! This is something which I can certainly empathise with. Google maps puts the overland journey from Manchester to Tahu Ratum at 6843 miles, and we are hoping to do it in 13 days.</span></span></div><div><span><span><br /></span></span></div><div><span><span><div><span><b>The Plan:</b><span> Fly to Islamabad, then onto Skardu. From here we hire a jeep to Askole, a small town 100km North. It is the gateway to the high Karakoram and sees many expeditions pass through each year. The men of the town make a good wage as porters during the summer months. Past Askole there are no more roads and will make the last 70km by foot. We will initially walk up the Biafo Glacier to Snow Lake. This place was first discovered by explorer Martin Conway in 1892, who described it as "beyond all comparison, the finest view of mountains it has ever been my lot to behold, nor do I believe the world can hold a finer." Obviously he hadn't been to the Moors!</span></span></div><div><span><span><br />Anyway (:P), From snow lake we will travel over the Hispar La (5128m), a pass which connects to the head of the Hispar glacier, before hanging a prompt right to base camp on the Khani Basa Glacier and Tahu Ratum. Let's hope it all goes to plan and we have an excellent adventure!</span></span></div><div><span><span><br /></span></span></div><div><span><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;font-family:Georgia,serif;" >Below is a map showing our planned route from Skardu in the South to Tahu Ratum in the North. We will drive the red line and walk the blue line. Approx 180km all in.</span></b></span></span></span></div></span></span></div><div><span><span><br /></span></span></div><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiERhpEGhqIjsw2aFfbjbOfwwQXbGZjPR5COj8b76ZU6xFqL41qBjYfv9jmH2cpGdY50JOJ53p8Vrs_9bnG2VBJ4w2Miitd09XaE-wTDvMCQ0kLgGCAdzw0kutzrAH0O1xAm1XFF3yVO8cS/s1600/The+journey+to+Tahu+Ratum.jpg"><img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 377px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiERhpEGhqIjsw2aFfbjbOfwwQXbGZjPR5COj8b76ZU6xFqL41qBjYfv9jmH2cpGdY50JOJ53p8Vrs_9bnG2VBJ4w2Miitd09XaE-wTDvMCQ0kLgGCAdzw0kutzrAH0O1xAm1XFF3yVO8cS/s400/The+journey+to+Tahu+Ratum.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5479397836652288322" border="0" /></a><div><span><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;font-family:Georgia,serif;" >L.Hunt<br /><div><span><span><br /></span></span></div></span></b></span></span></span></div><div><br /></div><div><span><span><br /><br /></span></span><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"></span></span></p></div>Tom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-9636627512510709472010-06-05T12:28:00.000-07:002010-06-05T12:32:45.043-07:00What happened next...It didn’t take long until the initial excitement of our objective wore off. It quickly became apparent that an expedition to the Karakorum was a pretty big task and that there was a lot more thought and organisation involved, than a summer in Chamonix requires. It was also going to cost a hell of a lot more.<br /><br />Luke contacted Kyle Dempster, who kindly sent a very comprehensive reply. We then proceeded to contact anyone we knew, and quite a few people we didn’t, who had been to Pakistan or climbed in the greater ranges. As a team we then drew up a rough budget and itinerary and emailed it to yet more people.<br /><br />Luckily for us British Mountaineering is well supported by an excellent grant system that favors young climbers, attempting technical new routes, in alpine style, in the greater ranges. After what seemed like an eternity of paper pushing and a mountain of forms, all six grant applications were completed and sent off. Incredibly we received money from all six - check out their websites linked to in the sidebar. A huge thank you goes out to the charities and organisations that have supported us, without their support we would be unable to go to Pakistan this summer.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEimF96o_HaD5L_43WJ3uT58xWv6tK4alsrcWJmpy_okpWmKOurIrUYOTj2SNLXRTWL5yFmJA0dZZYT5IyzjBYQdNi4MyRXmHwelrWDFaZAV9qTp8keEJtPxS1UI5AXVG-p2SiQjeYQh81UY/s1600/P1000567.jpg"><img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEimF96o_HaD5L_43WJ3uT58xWv6tK4alsrcWJmpy_okpWmKOurIrUYOTj2SNLXRTWL5yFmJA0dZZYT5IyzjBYQdNi4MyRXmHwelrWDFaZAV9qTp8keEJtPxS1UI5AXVG-p2SiQjeYQh81UY/s320/P1000567.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5479374368872318434" border="0" /></a><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-style: italic;">Pete Graham sorting gear before an unsuccessful ascent of the Eiger North Face. Photo: Tom Ripley.</span></span><br /></div><br />The other thing we were going to need is kit and lots of it. I began trying to get my head around what we needed and constructing vast lists. Fortunately we already most of the technical gear, but there was a fair amount of that we didn’t. Hamish and I set to blagging, sending out dozens of emails to companies. We were amazed with the response and generosity of companies we approached - some have given us kit, some have lent us stuff, whilst others have kindly let us buy stuff at exceptional discount. A big up to all of them, you’ve really helped us out, please check out their websites in the sidebar.<br /><br />My experience of organising expeditions so far has been very positive one. It’s very time consuming, but as with everything, you get what put into it.<br /><br />By Tom RipleyTom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3310922865576600473.post-11130328967438448252010-06-05T08:48:00.000-07:002010-06-05T10:04:47.928-07:00The story so far...As you’ve probably gathered we’re a team of three young climbers, off to the Karakoram this summer. This will be our first greater ranges expedition and we will attempt to climb the unclimbed NW Ridge of Tahu Ratum in alpine style. We won’t use bottled oxygen, Diamox, high altitude porters or fixed ropes. It will just be the three of us, carrying all our kit, food and fuel. After a period of acclimatisation we’ll start at the bottom and attempt climb to the top. We’ll attempt to free climb the route wherever possible, but no doubt we’ll end up using the odd aid or rest point.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiE2fSqURPwL1BrLu7r9r1HC7fs_VVDbXAA71wAu06Fva1z5EYBLAT_-EVn1bl5xqswSe0-pvsmojUYafAyc3RahelqeVXtRpR6YCRKKnq8s1xZpYsAcRzImN44uI3yxBeBqDB4yVuDhNKX/s1600/tahu+raum+2"><img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 285px; height: 194px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiE2fSqURPwL1BrLu7r9r1HC7fs_VVDbXAA71wAu06Fva1z5EYBLAT_-EVn1bl5xqswSe0-pvsmojUYafAyc3RahelqeVXtRpR6YCRKKnq8s1xZpYsAcRzImN44uI3yxBeBqDB4yVuDhNKX/s320/tahu+raum+2" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5479336366784115026" border="0" /></a><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-style: italic;">Tahu Rutum from the south west. Photo: Lee Harrison</span>.</span><br /></div><br />Tahu Ratum (6651m) is an immaculate granite pyramid which rises approximately 1500 m from the Khana Basi glacier, in the Hispar Muztagh region of the Karakorum. The Mountain has seen one previous ascent. In July 1977, a Japanese team made the mountain’s first ascent via SW Ridge. More recently, American <a href="http://http//kyledempster.blogspot.com/">Kyle Dempster</a> attempted to aid solo the West Face in August 2008, but retreated 200 metres beneath the summit due to lack of food.<br /><br />Tahu Ratum is really Luke’s baby. Whilst alpine dreaming in Chamonix last summer he realised, like Mick Fowler thirty years previously that there are no unclimbed Walker Spurs or Freney Pillars. To find such routes one has to head to the Greater Ranges. After hours of searching through <a href="http://www.summitpost.org/">Summit Posts</a> for an unclimbed, aesthetic, rock line on a big mountain he came across Tahu Ratum’s NW Ridge. Perfect, but who to climb it with?<br /><br />Luke originally approached Will Sim, who initially expressed keen interest. Unfortunately Will couldn’t commit to going to Pakistan as he had already arranged an expedition to Alaska. In the meantime Hamish and I were looking at planning our own expedition and had seriously looking at peaks in the Western Kokshaal-Too area of Kyrgyztan. However we were struggling to find other climbers to join us and the prospect of going somewhere as remote as Kyrgyztan as pair was little bit too daunting.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjHxeftvwG2E4PhUvRhVmeaE-AYK-4cY0aMSB9ZdqLBtzwl3IWAEDneJa08G5V9uQAdeqf8tWLT0q7OIk6lh-jatvdU62vNQegNr7bQ_VUrmQhmScPbh8ph5is7dnBnAAX7Dm7sOodpQttV/s1600/IMG_3885.JPG"><img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjHxeftvwG2E4PhUvRhVmeaE-AYK-4cY0aMSB9ZdqLBtzwl3IWAEDneJa08G5V9uQAdeqf8tWLT0q7OIk6lh-jatvdU62vNQegNr7bQ_VUrmQhmScPbh8ph5is7dnBnAAX7Dm7sOodpQttV/s320/IMG_3885.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5479320100817219394" border="0" /></a><span style="font-style: italic;font-size:85%;" >Luke, Jack and Hamish descending Mont Blanc after the Freney Pillar - Photo: Tom Ripley.</span><br /></div><br />Luke, Hamish and I know each other very well. We spent last summer together in Chamonix, living, climbing and misbehaving. We climbed the Petit Dru North Face as a three and The Central Pillar of Freney as a four with Jack Metcalf. Luke rang me up in early October, asking if Hamish and I would consider joining forces with him. My initial skepticism vanished the moment I saw a picture. The granite pyramid, looked like the perfect mountain - the Matterhorn on ‘roids and it’s unclimbed. Hamish took even less persuasion and the rest is history.<br /><br />By Tom RipleyTom Ripley, Luke Hunt, Holly Mumford and Hamish Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17031477885075536659noreply@blogger.com2